6 programs and 11 sizes in the Finder, for futures on NinjaTrader, Tradovate, Rithmic, TradingView and Quantower. Each starts with an evaluation. Hand trading only. Prices include today's codes where a program has one.
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Prices with today's code where a program has one. Days and daily goals are the Finder's default answer: as fast as the rules allow, no cushion (drawdown) kept after a payout.
Challenge, then Pre-funded · Futures · 3 sizes
| Size | Price | Eval target | Max drawdown | Daily loss limit | Cushion priceper $1k drawdown | Safe daily target | Paid out at most |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 25K | $62.30 | $1,500 | $1,500 trailing, locks at the start, moves to the start after a payout | none | $42 per $1k | $475 | $2,400 over 4 payouts |
| 50K | $89.60 | $3,000 | $2,000 trailing, locks at the start, moves to the start after a payout | none | $45 per $1k | $633 | $4,000 over 4 payouts |
| 100K | $188.30 | $6,000 | $3,000 trailing, locks at the start, moves to the start after a payout | none | $63 per $1k | $950 | $8,000 over 4 payouts |
Cash date for each amount withdrawn (before the split), bought and first traded on Fri 6 Nov 2026; trading days and the daily goal as the Finder ranks them by default.
| Size | $500 | $1,000 | $2,000 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 25Keval $750 a day | Fri 27 Nov10 days · funded $400 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 5 funded | Fri 4 Dec15 days · funded $380 a day until the first payoutthen $120 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 10 funded2 payouts | Fri 18 Dec25 days · funded $340 a day until the first payoutthen $120 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 20 funded4 payouts |
| 50Keval $1,500 a day | Fri 27 Nov10 days · funded $500 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 5 funded | Fri 27 Nov10 days · funded $600 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 5 funded | Fri 4 Dec15 days · funded $600 a day until the first payoutthen $200 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 10 funded2 payouts |
| 100Keval $3,000 a day | Fri 27 Nov10 days · funded $700 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 5 funded | Fri 27 Nov10 days · funded $800 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 5 funded | Fri 27 Nov10 days · funded $1,000 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 5 funded |
Monthly one-step evaluation (Starter/Growth/Scale V3): 6% target, EOD trailing drawdown, no daily drawdown, 50% consistency, 2 days. Pre-funded: same EOD drawdown, which stops trailing at the starting balance and is set there at the first withdrawal; locked buffer equal to the drawdown; 5 winning days of $100/$200/$300 before each payout (weekly); $75 minimum; $600/$1,000/$2,000 per payout; no funded consistency; 90% split; live (EdgeClear, static) after 4 payouts.
No overnight or weekend positions at any stage; a breach can cost the funded account or a payout. Hedging across accounts, account rolling and cross-account martingale are banned. 7 days without a trade closes a pre-funded account. Monthly fee until you pass.
Challenge, then Sim Funded · Futures · 3 sizes
| Size | Price | Eval target | Max drawdown | Daily loss limit | Cushion priceper $1k drawdown | Safe daily target | Paid out at most |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10K | $59.40 | $600 | $600 trailing, locks at the start | none | $99 per $1k | $190 | no set limit |
| 25K | $119.40 | $1,500 | $1,500 trailing, locks at the start | none | $80 per $1k | $475 | no set limit |
| 50K | $197.40 | $3,000 | $2,000 trailing, locks at the start | none | $99 per $1k | $633 | no set limit |
Cash date for each amount withdrawn (before the split), bought and first traded on Fri 6 Nov 2026; trading days and the daily goal as the Finder ranks them by default.
| Size | $500 | $1,000 | $2,000 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10Keval $300 a day | Thu 3 Dec14 days · funded $123 a day until the first payoutthen $120 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 9 funded3 payouts | Mon 7 Dec16 days · funded $146 a day until the first payoutthen $145 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 11 funded5 payouts | Out of reachon one account |
| 25Keval $750 a day | Tue 1 Dec12 days · funded $286 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 7 funded | Wed 2 Dec13 days · funded $313 a day until the first payoutthen $309 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 8 funded2 payouts | Fri 4 Dec15 days · funded $350 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 10 funded4 payouts |
| 50Keval $1,500 a day | Tue 1 Dec12 days · funded $358 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 7 funded | Tue 1 Dec12 days · funded $429 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 7 funded | Wed 2 Dec13 days · funded $500 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 8 funded2 payouts |
One-step evaluation (Seed/Starter/Growth), the same as Classic: 6% target, EOD trailing drawdown, no daily drawdown, 50% consistency, 2 days. Sim Funded: nothing is withdrawable until a Security Threshold equal to the drawdown is built (traded at half size); then each green day above it matures over 3 trading days (5 for a day worth more than 30% of total profit) and can be requested from $75, up to $200/$500/$1,000 per trading day ($1,000 a day per trader across Daily accounts); 80% split; EOD trailing drawdown that stops once the threshold is cleared; moves to live once $1,200/$3,000/$6,000 has been received (the 80% share).
Half size until the threshold is built. A day over 30% of profit waits 5 trading days. Sim payouts end at $1,200/$3,000/$6,000 received, then live. No overnight or weekend positions. Up to 3 Daily accounts, $1,000 a day across them.
Challenge, then Pre-funded · Futures · 2 sizes
| Size | Price | Eval target | Max drawdown | Daily loss limit | Cushion priceper $1k drawdown | Safe daily target | Paid out at most |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10K | $64.20 | $600 | $400 trailing, locks at the start, moves to the start after a payout | none | $161 per $1k | $127 | $1,200 over 4 payouts |
| 25K | $88.20 | $1,500 | $1,000 trailing, locks at the start, moves to the start after a payout | none | $88 per $1k | $317 | $1,600 over 4 payouts |
Cash date for each amount withdrawn (before the split), bought and first traded on Fri 6 Nov 2026; trading days and the daily goal as the Finder ranks them by default.
| Size | $500 | $1,000 | $2,000 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10Keval $600 a day | Wed 9 Dec18 days · funded $41 a day until the first payoutthen $40 a day1 eval, 3 wait, 14 funded2 payouts | Thu 7 Jan 202737 days · funded $40 a day1 eval, 3 wait, 33 funded4 payouts | Out of reachon one account |
| 25Keval $1,500 a day | Wed 9 Dec18 days · funded $100 a day1 eval, 3 wait, 14 funded2 payouts | Wed 23 Dec28 days · funded $100 a day1 eval, 3 wait, 24 funded3 payouts | Out of reachon one account |
One-time one-step evaluation (Seed/Starter): 6% target, EOD trailing drawdown, no daily drawdown, no consistency, 1 day; $29 activation on passing. Pre-funded: real-time trailing drawdown that stops at the starting balance and is set there at the first withdrawal; no buffer; 5 days of $40/$100 before the first payout, then bi-weekly; best day at most 30%; $30/$75 minimum; $300/$400 per payout; 90% split; live (EdgeClear, static) after 4 payouts.
$29 activation fee on passing. The funded drawdown trails in real time until it reaches the start. No overnight or weekend positions; a breach can cost the account or a payout. Account rolling and cross-account martingale are banned.
Evaluation, then Funded · Futures · 1 size
| Size | Price | Eval target | Max drawdown | Daily loss limit | Cushion priceper $1k drawdown | Safe daily target | Paid out at most |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 25K | $64.80 | $1,250 | $1,000 trailing, locks at the start + $100 | none | $65 per $1k | $317 | $4,000 over 4 payouts |
Cash date for each amount withdrawn (before the split), bought and first traded on Fri 6 Nov 2026; trading days and the daily goal as the Finder ranks them by default.
| Size | $500 | $1,000 | $2,000 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 25Keval $625 a day | Fri 27 Nov10 days · Funded $221 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 5 Funded | Fri 27 Nov10 days · Funded $421 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 5 Funded | Fri 4 Dec15 days · Funded $421 a day until the first payoutthen $200 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 10 Funded2 payouts |
Phoenix Labs experiment, one-time: $1,250 target, $1,000 EOD trailing drawdown that stops at $25,100, no daily drawdown, 51% consistency, 2 days. Funded: same drawdown; no buffer, no consistency; each payout needs 5 sessions of $100+ and $500 new profit since the last one, takes at most 50% of profit, $500 minimum, $1,000 maximum; $4,000 lifetime; 90% split; after 4 payouts closed or moved to live case by case.
Experimental Labs account: refunded in full if the concept is discontinued. No overnight or weekend positions. The funded account closes after 8 days without a trade. After 4 payouts it is closed or moved to live, case by case.
Evaluation, then Funded · Futures · 1 size
| Size | Price | Eval target | Max drawdown | Daily loss limit | Cushion priceper $1k drawdown | Safe daily target | Paid out at most |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 25K | $129 | $2,000 | $1,250 static | none | $103 per $1k | $396 | no set limit |
Cash date for each amount withdrawn (before the split), bought and first traded on Fri 6 Nov 2026; trading days and the daily goal as the Finder ranks them by default.
| Size | $500 | $1,000 | $2,000 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 25Keval $1,000 a day | Fri 20 Nov6 days · Funded $3,000 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 1 Funded | Mon 23 Nov7 days · Funded $3,000 a day until the first payoutthen $500 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 2 Funded2 payouts | Mon 30 Nov11 days · Funded $3,000 a day until the first payoutthen $500 a day2 eval, 3 wait, 6 Funded4 payouts |
Phoenix Labs experiment, one-time: $2,000 target, $1,250 static drawdown, no daily drawdown, no consistency, 2 days, no reset. Funded: $2,500 locked buffer that stays for the account's life; payouts from $25, up to $500 each, every 2 calendar days after the previous one (no gate for the first); $25,000 lifetime; 100% split; no consistency.
Experimental Labs account: refunded in full if the concept is discontinued. Static drawdown. No overnight or weekend positions. No resets. A funded account closes after 7 days without a trade.
Challenge, then Live · Futures · 1 size
| Size | Price | Eval target | Max drawdown | Daily loss limit | Cushion priceper $1k drawdown | Safe daily target | Paid out at most |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2K | $69 | not stated | $2,000 trailing, locks at the start | none | $35 per $1k | $633 | no set limit |
Cash date for each amount withdrawn (before the split), bought and first traded on Fri 6 Nov 2026; trading days and the daily goal as the Finder ranks them by default.
| Size | $500 | $1,000 | $2,000 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2Keval $1 a day | Wed 30 Dec31 days · Live $500 a day20 eval, 10 wait, 1 Live | Wed 30 Dec31 days · Live $1,000 a day20 eval, 10 wait, 1 Live | Wed 30 Dec31 days · Live $2,001 a day20 eval, 10 wait, 1 Live |
$69 one-time, 30-calendar-day challenge on $2,000: no target, no minimum days, static drawdown of the whole balance, 25% dynamic (soft) daily drawdown; one attempt, no reset. At the end of the 30 days the risk team reviews the trading (profit is not a criterion; most traders are not selected); approved accounts go straight to a $2,000 live EdgeClear account after KYC, in 1 to 10 business days (most within 48 hours). Live: payouts any time from $1, up to 10 a day, no cap, buffer or consistency; split 50% until twice the starting balance has been withdrawn, then 80%; EOD drawdown that stops trailing at the start; CME professional data $135 a month per exchange deducted from the account.
Live funding is a discretionary review of 30 days of trading, not a profit target; most traders are not selected. One attempt, no reset. A $135 monthly CME data fee per exchange comes out of the live account. No overnight or weekend positions.
Where a source leaves a rule open, the Finder takes the slower reading. Each program lists what it assumes for every size; a size lists only what it adds. Every payout is requested as early as the rules allow; the request that reaches the amount takes only what it still needs.
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42 sources, 41 official. Each opens in a new tab.
Each firm's soonest $1,000 withdrawn from a size with a published price, within its safe daily target where a size allows it; cash date and daily goal at the Finder's defaults. Phoenix Trader Funding is Mon 23 Nov.